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hugh@xtra.co.nz

hugh

WeRelate e-mail

Date: 4 February 2008 00:20
Subject: WeRelate e-mail
To: Kopuru <hugh>

Hi, Has taken me a couple of hours to work out this site!!!

I am Laurian Fernandez Rangiuia aged now 60 I live in Nelson

Obviously I am interested in your connectin with the Fernandez Rangiuia tree

But more curious as to the connection with the Royce and Enid Christian tree and how the two connect if they even do!!!!

My Half sister carrollyn Jackson married Bruce Christian so you can see I am interested that the two families arrive in the one tree!!!!

I have a full copy _ possibly not too current = of the Fernandez tree done by Brent Fernandez nearly 30 years ago

I look forward to hearing from you

Lauriand aka Nopera

NZGDB: re Ihapera Tewera KEREAMA (1838-1904)

Subject: NZGDB: re Ihapera Tewera KEREAMA (1838-1904)
To: hugh

Dear (Hugh Winters)

GDB reference: http://www.nzgdb.co.nz/GDB_Pages/GDB2.aspx?linkid=a3ed3a66-40ad-4da9-91a6-d2614469fb3b

Hi! I have not put my database online yet but I have some “hits” with yours regarding the Emerre’s and Fernandez’s. My son recently married Tracy née Rowling and her family tree goes back to Mavis Emerre who married Amos Rowling, her grandfather. I am interested in any further information you may have regarding the above Ihapera. Tracy knew she had a Maori ancestor but does not know any detail.

Interesting about Captain Thomas Fernandez. Attached is a few more details that must have led up to his letter.

Roger Jackson

Nelson

Thomas Fernandez2.doc

Davern

Subject: Davern
To: hugh

Hi Hugh. Please excuse my contacting you but I noticed from my frequent journeys into family history notes on the internet that you were researching the Davern family in Ireland. I also descend from a Davern family in Australia who emigrated there from Ireland in the 1860’s. While they came from a small village named Pallas Grean in Limerick it is possible that there is some relationship between your Daverns and mine. All that I know is that my patrick Davern married an Ann O’Brien in Pallas. I have no idea where he came from but cannot find any record of the name in Pallas. Could he be one of yours who has moved around and ended up there? Regards George Singleton

No, not much help I’m afraid, although I do have Bernard George Emerre (Isabel’s husband) as born 1883, London, emigrated to NZ 1902, 2^nd wife Vera Mabel Tillman (no issue), d.11/9/1930 in Lower Hutt, described as a Land Agent. Also Mavis Elizabeth Emerre b.2/5/1907 and d.25/6/1989 at Nelson, ashes interred at Seaview cemetery, Stoke, Nelson. Amos Rowling d.27/4/1966 at Nelson, ashes interred in the same cemetery. 

Roger

 

Thomas Fernandez

Captain Thomas Fernandez (born in London in 1832) first visited Poverty Bay on the schooner Sarah Jane in 1850. During the Waikato War he was in charge of the gunboat Pioneer. He was deprived of command of the Pretty Jane after she stranded off the Waipaoa River in 1875 whilst in charge of a pilot and during his absence on shore. For some time he was engaged in a search among the Pacific Islands for a supposed “Treasure Island.” In later years he was a pilot at Auckland. He died at Gisborne in 1914. (nzetc website).

Wreck of Ship “Pretty Jane”

1875 Feb 04 Shipwreck

1876 Oct 17 Shipwreck

AJHR 1875 Section H12A page 13

Return of Wrecks

Date of Casualty : 4 Feb 1875

Name of Master : Thomas FERNANDEZ

Age of Vessel : S.S. 5 years

Rig : Three-masted Schooner

Register Tonnage : 101

Number of Crew : 17

Number of Passengers : 8

Nature of Cargo : Wood, grass seed, and general

Nature of Casualty : Stranded; partial loss

Number of Lives Lost :

Place of Accident : On the bar of the Koputetea River,

Poverty Bay

Wind Direction : E

Wind Force : Light

Finding of Court of Inquiry

Court found that vessel was stranded by the want of knowledge

and great imprudence of the pilot, Joseph KENNEDY, and that the

chief officer, James CAREY, was extremely culpable in allowing

pilot to take vessel to sea during temporary absence of master,

and not having remonstrated with pilot for attempting to take

the bar. Master considered reprehensible for absenting himself

when the ship was going to sea without any cause whatever, and

for not giving positive instructions that the vessel should not

proceed to sea. Master’s certificate suspended for three months.

GDB reference: http://www.nzgdb.co.nz/GDB_Pages/GDB2.aspx?linkid=a3ed3a66-40ad-4da9-91a6-d2614469fb3b

  Hi! I have not put my database online yet but I have some “hits” with yours regarding the Emerre’s and Fernandez’s. My son recently married a Rowling and her family tree goes back to Mavis Emerre who married Amos Rowling, her grandfather. I am interested in any further information you may have regarding the above Ihapera.  She knew she had a Maori ancestor but does not know any detail.

Interesting about Captain Thomas Fernandez. Attached is a few more details that must have led up to his letter.

 

Roger Jackson

Nelson

 

As you can see form Diane Wixted’s post of the early British records, the
military was quite present in Tipperary very early. Her example shows a
senior officer, who achieved a higher commission/post/wages by mustering his
own regiment. He would ride through the countryside and gather all the
folks he could with promises of decent wages and sometimes land for enough
time served, perhaps often oceans away. Therefore, you will often see
regiments with soldiers born within localized areas.

Diane’s example shows a regiment formed in a small town, that then set sail
to service in Ireland. Recruiting practices ebbed and flowed depending upon
the state of the British Empire. As an example, right around the times of
the Napoleonic Wars there was heavy recruiting of Irish into the British
forces.

As Janet Crawford has posted before, the military records that exist for
Irish soldiers at the National Archives in London
(www.nationalarchives.gov.uk) are really astounding. I will use a name that
Diane posted today ,Thomas Cleary, as an example. I think these dates are
probably off for this to be her relative, but it’s a good illustration and
it’s a family name of mine as well, so I already have the records to share.

Within the WO97 series at the archives under the sub-heading “catalogue”,
there is listed a Thomas Cleary born in Cashel in 1802. He mustered into
the 52nd Regiment of foot, Oxfordshire Light Infantry in 1823 and was
discharged at aged 42 in 1844. You can see whether he was literate or not,
by his sturdy signature, or his shaky “x” on the dotted line of his
attestation papers. Thomas received a pension because he was in service the
required 21 years and 10 months.This leads to another set of records and
from this I can see he lived in Canada after leaving service.

Mustering in the same day in 1823 also Tipperary born were James Burke,
Michael Meagher, Edmund Ryan, Joseph Stephens and Daniel Lawler. I have
learned to keep my eyes on the folks that mustered in at the same time.
They pop up as sponsors, and after pensioning off, the names appear to live
near each other sometimes.

Thomas’ regiment during just those 21 years, served in New Brunswick, Nova
Scotia, Holland, Belgium, Gibraltar and Barbados.

Once an Irishman became a British soldier, he was considered a British
subject. Wills were recorded, and births, marriages and death records exist
both civil, and within regimental registers. For example, I found within
just the indexes of the birth registers records that Thomas had the
following children: Johanna, born in Nova Scotia in 1827; Stephen born in
1831; Mary Ann born in 1834; Thomas born in 1837; and Eliza born in
Woodstock, NB in 1843. There may be others that are recorded elsewhere that
he was stationed. India kept meticulous records of the British occupation,
including illegitimate children of the soldiers that were left behind in
orphanages.

You need to be patient and creative with the spellings in the archives.
Surnames can be spelled “how it sounded” to an English ear or just flat out,
transcribed incorrectly. I have seen dozens of examples of this, but 2 that
are particular to Tipperary are a Patrick Marra born “Tummavara, Offaly”
served in the Offaly Militia barracked in Milane. Obviously, he was born in
Tipperary, in Toomevara. Serving also in the Offaly Militia was a “William
Clay” born in Durrow, Tipperary. Upon pulling this record, I found it was
“William Clary” of Tipperary.

You can also cross-reference with the records held in the LDS Catalog, where
some of these records are available to order as well. Use different search
terms in the LDS catalog to trigger the records series. Both the LDS and
the National Archives have wonderful “Help” sections and tutorials that
helped me learn to navigate.

I think the most important thing I have learned is that there are seemingly
no brick walls in genealogy. Anyone thinking otherwise should go to the
link above and under the top heading “search” button, type in “Tipperary”
(or Typperary, or Tupperary or Munster or anything else you can think of…)
; and hang onto your mouse pads!!

Jean Kramb

Cemetery Burials

Name MOROS, CATHERINE
Details F: died 15-11-1919: aged 56
Place Waikaraka
Location Area 2 Block U Lot No 24B
Inscription reads ” RIP Of your charity etc, John George dearly
beloved husband of Catherine Moros died 7 Feb 1913 aged 57 yrs (verse)
Also his wife Catherine died 15 Nov 1919 RIP Also their loved son George
died 14 July 1941 aged 61 yrs In loving memory of John Gabriel beloved
husband of Angeliki who was born Ithaca, Greece died Auckland 21 Jan
1940 ” (grave reopened) (Harris)

Name MOROS, GEORGE JOHN
Details M: died 14-07-1941: aged 61
Place Waikaraka
Location Area 2 Block U Lot No 24A
Inscription reads ” RIP Of your charity etc, John George dearly
beloved husband of Catherine Moros died 7 Feb 1913 aged 57 yrs (verse)
Also his wife Catherine died 15 Nov 1919 RIP Also their loved son George
died 14 July 1941 aged 61 yrs In loving memory of John Gabriel beloved
husband of Angeliki who was born Ithaca, Greece died Auckland 21 Jan
1940 ” (grave reopened) (Harris)

Name MOROS, JOHN GEORGE
Details M: died 07-02-1913: aged 57
Place Waikaraka
Location Area 2 Block U Lot No 24
Inscription reads ” RIP Of your charity etc, John George dearly
beloved husband of Catherine Moros died 7 Feb 1913 aged 57 yrs (verse)
Also his wife Catherine died 15 Nov 1919 RIP Also their loved son George
died 14 July 1941 aged 61 yrs In loving memory of John Gabriel beloved
husband of Angeliki who was born Ithaca, Greece died Auckland 21 Jan
1940 ” (grave reopened) (Harris)

Name GABRIEL, ANGELICA
Details F: died 25-05-1958: aged 73
Place Waikaraka
Location Area 2 Block U Lot No 30

Name GABRIEL, THEODORE
Details died 06-01-1954: aged 46
Place Waikaraka
Location Area 1 Block EXT Lot No 526A
Inscription reads “Sacred to the memory of Theodore John dearly
loved husband of Florence Gabriel died 6 Jan 1954 aged 46 years. RIP.”
(Jacobsen

Name DAVERN, MARTHA ELLEN
Details F: died 11-12-1966: aged 65
Place Waikaraka
Location Area 5 Block A Lot No 436
Inscription reads ” In loving memory of Martha Ellen Davern loved
wife and mother died 11 Dec 1966 aged 65 yrs And William Robert Davern
loved husband and father died 24 Jan 1974 aged 79 yrs Rest in Peace”
[2 of 2]

Name DAVERN, WILLIAM ROBERT
Details M: died 24-01-1974: aged 79
Place Waikaraka
Location Area 5 Block A Lot No 436
Inscription reads ” In loving memory of Martha Ellen Davern loved
wife and mother died 11 Dec 1966 aged 65 yrs And William Robert Davern
loved husband and father died 24 Jan 1974 aged 79 yrs Rest in Peace”

Name SMITH, THOMAS CLIFTON
Details M: died 01-11-1958: aged 52
Place Otahuhu
Location Area J Lot No 109

Name SMITH, GEORGE ALBERT
Details M: died 03-10-1954: aged 41
Place Otahuhu
Location Area C Lot No 52

(no subject)

DAVERN Michael – Margaret Boyd 1911 – 1911

agency series accession box / item record part
alternative no.
BBAE 4984 524

DAVERN James Francis – Auckland – Settler 1966 – 1966

agency series accession box / item record part
alternative no.
BBAE 1570 Box1895 248/1966

DAVERN Thomas Jerry – Auckland – Signwriter 1972 – 1972

agency series accession box / item record part
alternative no.
BBAE 1570 Box2467 2907/1972

James Davern Limited 1955 – 1956

agency series accession box / item record part
alternative no.
BADZ 5586 455al 1954/693

DAVERN, Thomas – WW1 6/2591 – Army 1914 – 1916

agency series accession box / item record part
alternative no.
AABK 18805 W5537 15 0031919

RINGROSE, Michael Jeremiah Davern – WW1 64666 – Army 1914 – 1918

agency series accession box / item record part
alternative no.
AABK 18805 W5550 76 0098039